Eliminating hyperparameters, one commit at a time.
Current status: Experimental
- Schedule-Free can be disabled using
use_schedulefree=False
. This reverts the optimiser to straight Prodigy, while keeping per-group learning rates and the rest of the features of the optimiser (StableAdamW, factorisation, and so on). In this mode, it is best paired with a decaying LR scheduler. - Changed
split_groups_mean
toFalse
so full, per-group stepsize adaptation is active by default. - The Prodigy implementation adjusted to more closely match the original.
- StableAdamW use a soft scaling formula based on the square root of the RMS. This should result in more accurate LR adjustments.
- SPEED has been completely reworked, and should be more stable and perform better on a wide range of tasks. Personally, I now prefer it over base Prodigy.
- Removed Muon. It never really worked correctly when combined with Schedule-Free and Prodigy.
- Removed the "confidence" learning rate limiter, which ended up being too aggressive for non-SDXL training and fine-tuning.
- Added a limiter to d growth to prevent over-estimated LRs when gradients and EMAs are still stabilising. It can be disabled via
d_limiter=False
. - Added logging group parameter
effective_lr
. This value is for reporting only; rather than usingd * lr
, you can trackd * effective_lr
. This provides a closer approximation of the LR when Schedule-Free is on. Once the LR has settled,d * effective_lr
should be around 10% the size ofd * lr
. - Sufficied to say, you should not resume training started with older versions of the optimiser with this one. It will break.
For the current stable release (v1.9.2), use:
pip install prodigy-plus-schedule-free
If you'd like to try the v2.0.0 release candidate, clone this repo or use the following instead:
pip install prodigy-plus-schedule-free==2.0.0rc2
Please note v2.0.0 includes breaking changes. Do not use it to resume training runs on older versions! Please check the changelog above for more details.
from prodigyplus.prodigy_plus_schedulefree import ProdigyPlusScheduleFree
optimizer = ProdigyPlusScheduleFree(model.parameters(), lr=1.0, betas=(0.9, 0.99), beta3=None,
weight_decay=0.0, weight_decay_by_lr=True, d0=1e-6, d_coef=1.0,
d_limiter=True, prodigy_steps=0, eps=1e-8,
split_groups=True, split_groups_mean=False,
factored=True, factored_fp32=True, use_bias_correction=False,
use_stableadamw=True, use_schedulefree=True, use_speed=False,
stochastic_rounding=True, fused_back_pass=False,
use_cautious=False, use_grams=False, use_adopt=False,
use_orthograd=False, use_focus=False)
Important
As with the reference implementation of Schedule-Free, a constant scheduler should be used, along with the appropriate calls to optimizer.train()
and optimizer.eval()
. See the Schedule-Free documentation for more details: https://github.com/facebookresearch/schedule_free
The default settings should "just work", but there are a few configurations you can try to improve things.
By default, the optimiser uses StableAdamW to scale parameter updates, which reduces the need for external gradient scaling or clipping. However, this can also hamper Prodigy's ability to adapt the stepsize. While the optimiser includes internal logic to mostly mitigate this, you can try eps=None
to use Adam-atan2 instead, or set use_stableadamw=False
and use external gradient clipping.
Unlike reference Prodigy, this optimiser will adjust the stepsize per parameter group, allowing one to train multiple networks at the same time. To train all groups together like the original Prodigy, set split_groups=False
.
Tip
As of v2.0.0, split_groups_mean
is False
by default, so full, per-group training is always active. Set split_groups_mean=True
to replicate the behaviour of older versions.
Earlier versions of the optimiser recommended setting prodigy_steps
equal to 5-25% of your total step count, but this should not be necessary with recent updates. That said, you can still use the setting to make sure the LR does not change after a certain step, and free any memory used by Prodigy for adapting the step size.
An optimiser based on Prodigy that includes Schedule-Free logic and much, much lower memory usage, the aim being to remove the need to set any hyperparameters. Of course, that's never the case with any optimiser, but hopefully, this comes close!
Hyperparameters eliminated: Learning rate (Prodigy), LR scheduler (Schedule-Free), epsilon (Adam-atan2, optional, not enabled by default).
Based on code from:
Incorporates improvements from these pull requests (credit to https://github.com/dxqbYD, https://github.com/sangoi-exe and https://github.com/nhamanasu):
If you do use another scheduler, linear or cosine is preferred, as a restarting scheduler can confuse Prodigy's adaptation logic.
Leave lr
set to 1 unless you encounter instability. Do not use with gradient clipping, as this can hamper the ability for the optimiser to predict stepsizes. Gradient clipping/normalisation is already handled in the following configurations:
-
use_stableadamw=True,eps=1e8
(or any reasonable positive epsilon. This is the default.) -
eps=None
(Adam-atan2, scale invariant. Will disable StableAdamW if enabled.)
The optimiser uses low-rank approximations for the second moment, much like Adafactor. There should be little to no difference in training performance, but your mileage may vary. If you encounter problems, you can try disabling factorisation by setting factored=False
. If you're training in bfloat16, and need to squeeze out every last drop of memory, you can also set factored_fp32=False
, which will make the factored second moment use the same precision as the weights, rather than float32 (to maximise stability).
The optimiser also supports fused backward pass to significantly lower gradient memory usage. The fused_back_pass
argument must be set to True
so the optimiser knows not to perform the regular step. Please note however that your training scripts / UI of choice must support the feature for generic optimisers -- as of May 2025, Kohya hard-codes which optimisers have fused backward pass support, and so this optimiser's fused pass will not work out of the box with it.
In some scenarios, it can be advantageous to freeze Prodigy's adaptive stepsize after a certain number of steps. This can be controlled via the prodigy_steps
settings. It's been suggested that all Prodigy needs to do is achieve "escape velocity" in terms of finding a good LR, which it usually achieves after ~25% of training, though this is very dependent on batch size and epochs.
This setting can be particularly helpful when training diffusion models, which have very different gradient behaviour than what most optimisers are tuned for. Prodigy in particular will increase the LR forever if it is not stopped or capped in some way (usually via a decaying LR scheduler). Even if you don't need to cap LR growth, the optimiser will free all Prodigy-specific state memory once prodigy_steps
is exceeded, which may improve performance where memory usage is on the borderline.
Adam-atan2: eps=None
. Outlined in Scaling Exponents Across Parameterizations and Optimizers, you can use atan2 in place of the regular division plus epsilon found in most Adam-style optimisers. This makes updates scale-invariant, and removes the need to tweak the epsilon. Disabled by default.
C-Optim: use_cautious=True
. Outlined in Cautious Optimizers: Improving Training with One Line of Code. Applies a simple modification to parameter updates that promotes values that are aligned with the current gradient. This should result in faster convergence. While not 1:1 compatible with Schedule-Free, the implementation by nhamanasu does work, though improvements may be limited.
Grams: use_grams=True
. Described in Grams: Gradient Descent with Adaptive Momentum Scaling. In a similar vein to C-Optim, the parameter update is modified to separate the update direction from momentum. Thanks to gesen2egee for the pull request.
ADOPT: use_adopt=True
. A partial implementation of ADOPT: Modified Adam Can Converge with Any β2 with the Optimal Rate, as we only update the second moment after the parameter update, so as to exclude the current gradient. Disabled by default.
OrthoGrad: use_orthograd=True
. Updates weights using the component of the gradient that is orthogonal to the current weight direction, as described in Grokking at the Edge of Numerical Stability. Can help prevent overfitting and improve generalisation.
FOCUS: use_focus=True
. Modifies the update step to better handle noise at large step sizes. From FOCUS: First-Order Concentrated Update Scheme. This method is incompatible with factorisation (which will increase state memory usage), Muon and Adam-atan2. Additionally, Prodigy modifies the second moment updates when d
changes, which may limit the benefits of this method.
SPEED: use_speed=True
. Something of my own creation I've dubbed Simplified Prodigy with rElativE D. It replaces Prodigy's numerator/denominator ratio with a momentum-based estimate of directional progress. SPEED uses less memory, is scale-insensitive, and can be a better choice when training multiple networks, however, it can be unstable when used with weight decay or for extremely long training runs (where it's recommended to use prodigy_steps
).
Note
If use_schedulefree=False
, all experimental features are implemented as per their reference implementations.
Q: Why doesn't Prodigy ever lower the learning rate?
The original Prodigy's aim is not to act as a combined learning rate calculator and scheduler. It's meant to ballpark a good learning rate, and leave LR decay to your preferred scheduler (usually cosine). Prodigy + Schedule-Free does combine the two, but it doesn't adjust the LR directly -- in simple terms, it uses a smaller and smaller portion of the averaged updates as training goes on, roughly approximating a 1/t schedule.
Looking at d
alone tells only parts of the story; this is just the LR Prodigy has calculated, minus any internal modifications. A better metric is observing the norm of the weights, you'll see their rate of growth decrease significantly over time, reflecting the small tail of a traditional LR schedule. You can also log group['effective_lr'] * group['d']
, which gives a much more accurate representation of Schedule-Free's LR.
Q: Why isn't Prodigy increasing the LR?
If Prodigy fails to increase the LR over an extended period (say 100 or more steps), and you're not using bias correction, non-constant LR scheduler or warmup, this usually indicates one of the following:
- You haven't set the optimiser's
lr
argument to 1. For compatibility with external LR schedulers, the optimiser will multiple the LR you provide with the adaptive one, so if you forget to change this when switching optimisers, the LR will be tiny. - The ideal LR is less than
d0
(Prodigy's initial LR guess). Try settingd0
to a lower value, such as 1e-7 or 1e-8. If this doesn't help, you can also try settingd_coef=2
(or higher), oruse_speed=True
. - The value for
d0
is too conservative and starving Prodigy. Try raisingd0
to 1e-5 or 1e-4. - External gradient clipping is enabled. This optimiser handles gradient scaling already, so turn off any external clipping/scaling. Alternatively, you can use external scaling, and disable the internal one via
use_stableadamw=False
. - Set
d_limiter=False
. The growth limiter should never prevent the LR from increasing, but it's possible your training scenario requires faster adjustments.
Generated from the MNIST example in the Schedule-Free repository, using the default settings.
Prodigy LR: 0.000862
Test set: Average loss: 0.0456, Accuracy: 9849/10000 (98.49%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0347, Accuracy: 9881/10000 (98.81%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0324, Accuracy: 9898/10000 (98.98%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0308, Accuracy: 9911/10000 (99.11%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0299, Accuracy: 9913/10000 (99.13%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0285, Accuracy: 9919/10000 (99.19%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0289, Accuracy: 9922/10000 (99.22%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0300, Accuracy: 9925/10000 (99.25%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0306, Accuracy: 9924/10000 (99.24%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0319, Accuracy: 9927/10000 (99.27%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0339, Accuracy: 9925/10000 (99.25%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0349, Accuracy: 9928/10000 (99.28%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0366, Accuracy: 9924/10000 (99.24%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0377, Accuracy: 9926/10000 (99.26%)
With use_speed=True
:
Prodigy LR: 0.002582
Test set: Average loss: 0.0401, Accuracy: 9861/10000 (98.61%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0309, Accuracy: 9908/10000 (99.08%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0276, Accuracy: 9916/10000 (99.16%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0259, Accuracy: 9928/10000 (99.28%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0258, Accuracy: 9930/10000 (99.30%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0268, Accuracy: 9931/10000 (99.31%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0288, Accuracy: 9926/10000 (99.26%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0305, Accuracy: 9927/10000 (99.27%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0309, Accuracy: 9934/10000 (99.34%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0309, Accuracy: 9932/10000 (99.32%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0323, Accuracy: 9933/10000 (99.33%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0337, Accuracy: 9934/10000 (99.34%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0345, Accuracy: 9932/10000 (99.32%)
Test set: Average loss: 0.0352, Accuracy: 9933/10000 (99.33%)